Add experimental support for MSC4308: Thread Subscriptions extension to Sliding Sync when MSC4306 and MSC4186 are enabled. by reivilibre · Pull Request #18695 · element-hq/synapse

reivilibre · 2025-07-18T10:50:51Z

Implements: matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals#4308

Follows: #18674

This pull request is intended for commit-by-commit review.

This pull request adds an extension to Sliding Sync and a companion endpoint needed for backpaginating missed thread subscription changes,
as described in MSC4308

MadLittleMods

(I have looked things over but haven't given everything a proper review-level scrutiny)

…_for_user`

Works around #18712

Put MSC4308 behind the MSC4306 feature flag

Signed-off-by: Olivier 'reivilibre <oliverw@matrix.org>

reivilibre · 2025-08-21T16:29:14Z

previously-reviewed draft was very different, so putting back on the main queue

anoadragon453

Looks good overall! A few minor things below.

Also curious that the CI was cancelled. I assume that was on purpose?

anoadragon453 · 2025-08-27T09:43:29Z

+        When creating a new sequence for a new stream, it will be necessary to advance it
+        so that position 1 is consumed.
+        DO NOT USE `START WITH 2` FOR THIS PURPOSE:
+            see https://github.com/element-hq/synapse/issues/18712
+        Instead, use `SELECT nextval('sequence_name');` immediately after the
+        `CREATE SEQUENCE` statement.


Should we close #18712 once this PR is merged?
Unless we plan to fix it in some other fashion down the line.

Hrmrmrmr. It feels like a design footgun that we could ideally resolve rather than having a hidden comment somewhere about what to do. But not sure if that's worth keeping an issue in the infinite backlog.

IMO there's not too much benefit gained from properly fixing it vs. other things we could work on. So in a purely triage sense, I'd be in favour of closing the issue and leaving the comment as a helpful touch stone (one that may prompt folks to fix it in future if they really wanted to).

Somewhat agreed, but the comment is not necessarily in a place you will notice (I'm not sure where you could do that, actually). The risk is that next time we come to adding a new one, we lose another couple of hours trying to track this issue down. But mrm I suppose this is probably the best we can do atm

anoadragon453 · 2025-08-27T11:11:55Z

+        if limit <= 0:
+            raise SynapseError(
+                HTTPStatus.BAD_REQUEST,
+                "limit must be greater than 0",
+                errcode=Codes.INVALID_PARAM,
+            )


negative=False on parse_integer will already do this for us.

negative still allows 0 :(

Ah, that's annoying.

Could you add a quick comment noting that this conditional is needed because of that?

…ions.py Co-authored-by: Andrew Morgan <1342360+anoadragon453@users.noreply.github.com>

Co-authored-by: Andrew Morgan <1342360+anoadragon453@users.noreply.github.com>

anoadragon453 · 2025-09-08T13:36:54Z

        return HTTPStatus.OK, {}


+class ThreadSubscriptionsPaginationRestServlet(RestServlet):


What do you think about adding rate-limiting to this handler?

hmm... do we rate-limit any read operations already?

Just looking at https://spec.matrix.org/v1.15/client-server-api/#get_matrixclientv3roomsroomidmessages and sync and I'm not seeing them be rate limited.

Not that it's a terrible idea, but not sure how to balance with consistency (and the fact you could rate limit general requests with a load balancer e.g. nginx for instance)

I mostly asked the question to check that it had been considered (which we tend to forget to do when adding new endpoints).

I'll accept the argument that the endpoint can be rate-limited by IP or access token in the load balancer for now, as I agree that we don't need anything more granular. We also have a MAX_LIMIT value defined, which prevents any one request from drawing too many resources.

anoadragon453

This LGTM!

anoadragon453 · 2025-09-09T10:35:15Z

(I assume Complement CI will fail until #18819 is merged?)

@SpiritCroc

# Synapse 1.139.0 (2025-09-30) ## Features - Add experimental support for [MSC4308: Thread Subscriptions extension to Sliding Sync](matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals#4308) when [MSC4306: Thread Subscriptions](matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals#4306) and [MSC4186: Simplified Sliding Sync](matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals#4186) are enabled. ([\#18695](element-hq/synapse#18695)) - Update push rules for experimental [MSC4306: Thread Subscriptions](matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals#4306) to follow a newer draft. ([\#18846](element-hq/synapse#18846)) - Add `get_media_upload_limits_for_user` and `on_media_upload_limit_exceeded` module API callbacks to the media repository. ([\#18848](element-hq/synapse#18848)) - Support [MSC4169](matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals#4169) for backwards-compatible redaction sending using the `/send` endpoint. Contributed by @SpiritCroc @ Beeper. ([\#18898](element-hq/synapse#18898)) - Add an in-memory cache to `_get_e2e_cross_signing_signatures_for_devices` to reduce DB load. ([\#18899](element-hq/synapse#18899)) - Update [MSC4190](matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals#4190) support to return correct errors and allow appservices to reset cross-signing keys without user-interactive authentication. Contributed by @tulir @ Beeper. ([\#18946](element-hq/synapse#18946)) ## Deprecations and Removals - Remove obsolete and experimental `/sync/e2ee` endpoint. ([\#18583](element-hq/synapse#18583)) # Synapse 1.138.0 (2025-09-09) ## Features - Support for the stable endpoint and scopes of [MSC3861](matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals#3861) & co. ([\#18549](element-hq/synapse#18549))

@SpiritCroc

# Synapse 1.139.0 (2025-09-30) ## Features - Add experimental support for [MSC4308: Thread Subscriptions extension to Sliding Sync](matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals#4308) when [MSC4306: Thread Subscriptions](matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals#4306) and [MSC4186: Simplified Sliding Sync](matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals#4186) are enabled. ([\#18695](element-hq/synapse#18695)) - Update push rules for experimental [MSC4306: Thread Subscriptions](matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals#4306) to follow a newer draft. ([\#18846](element-hq/synapse#18846)) - Add `get_media_upload_limits_for_user` and `on_media_upload_limit_exceeded` module API callbacks to the media repository. ([\#18848](element-hq/synapse#18848)) - Support [MSC4169](matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals#4169) for backwards-compatible redaction sending using the `/send` endpoint. Contributed by @SpiritCroc @ Beeper. ([\#18898](element-hq/synapse#18898)) - Add an in-memory cache to `_get_e2e_cross_signing_signatures_for_devices` to reduce DB load. ([\#18899](element-hq/synapse#18899)) - Update [MSC4190](matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals#4190) support to return correct errors and allow appservices to reset cross-signing keys without user-interactive authentication. Contributed by @tulir @ Beeper. ([\#18946](element-hq/synapse#18946)) ## Deprecations and Removals - Remove obsolete and experimental `/sync/e2ee` endpoint. ([\#18583](element-hq/synapse#18583)) # Synapse 1.138.0 (2025-09-09) ## Features - Support for the stable endpoint and scopes of [MSC3861](matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals#3861) & co. ([\#18549](element-hq/synapse#18549))

MadLittleMods · 2026-04-02T16:19:37Z

        un_partial_stated_rooms_key = self.store.get_un_partial_stated_rooms_token(
            self._instance_name
        )
+        thread_subscriptions_key = self.store.get_max_thread_subscriptions_stream_id()


See #19365 (comment) for a discussion on whether we should be using MultiWriterStreamToken instead of a single stream_id int.

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MSC4306: Thread Subscriptions matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals#4306

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Update simplified sliding sync docstring

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Works around #18712

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Put MSC4308 behind the MSC4306 feature flag

Add companion endpoint for backpagination of thread subscriptions

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client-api: add support for msc4308 sliding sync extension ruma/ruma#2206

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feat: implement msc4308 + automatic background catchup of thread subscriptions matrix-org/matrix-rust-sdk#5604

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fix(room service): enable the thread subscriptions extension based on server support matrix-org/matrix-rust-sdk#5618

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Use copy_and_replace in get_current_token_for_pagination

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MultiWriterStreamIdGenerator: wrong behaviour when using sequences initialised with START WITH #18712

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[Story] Threads: Subscribing to a Thread element-hq/element-meta#2766

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[Prep] Threads: Design a participation model API in Matrix element-hq/element-meta#2777

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		return HTTPStatus.OK, {}


		class ThreadSubscriptionsPaginationRestServlet(RestServlet):

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