MongoDB or NeDB

[haxmachine]

Hi Ylian,

Been following your project for some time and have been using it internally on the standard DB.
I'm going to implement a Live environment on WAN.

Which database would you suggest I use moving forward NeDB ro MongoDB and if MongoDB and what version community
or enterprise

Ill have 100-200 endpoints.
it will run on server 2019 Standard.

[VINISHVV]

@haxmachine

MongoDB is good while compare with other DB's.
I am using MongoDB community edition v5.0.1

[haxmachine]

Thanks for that.
I wanted to know is there any performance gains using MongoDB instead of NeDB.

[VINISHVV]

NeDB is suggested for small organizations having agents less than 500.
If your agent count is more then you can experience the differences.

[Ylianst]

Exactly right. If your using MeshCentral in production or for anything critical, I highly recommend using MongoDB. NeDB has not been updated in a long time and MongoDB is much more professional.

[haxmachine]

Ok, I will then deploy it with MongoDB community edition from the start, this way the platform is ready from the start.
How far off do you think MySql will be.
I would have preferred MSSQL since I've been using it for 14years for other services.

[Ylianst]

MySQL should work fine now. We just convert MongoDB calls into SQL calls and it seems to work well. One benefit of MongoDB is that MeshCentral is capable of "bulk reads" and "bulk write" into MongoDB. You need to add the following line in the settings section of the config.json:

"MongoDbBulkOperations": true

This should boots server scaling quite a lot.

For MSSQL, I am not opposed to supporting it at some point, however it's a licensed database with added costs to run and not sure how many in the community would use it.

[haxmachine]

So true Licencing is bomb.
Sounds like MongoDB is the way to go.
Im already in the middle of setting that up.
Much appreciated with the feedback.

[haxmachine]

since im new to MongoDB
when creatinf the initial Meshcentral DB
what do i fill in for it

[nzalev]

I do not believe you have to manually create the database if you are using mongodb. It has been a while since I have installed it on Windows.

However, if you prefer MySQL / MariaDB, I have worked a lot on it and it is currently at feature parity with MongoDB. You do have to first create a user+database (or use the root user to create the db automatically).

The config.json looks like

 "settings": {
    "wanonly": true,
    "mysql": { 
      "host": "localhost",
      "user": "meshcentral", 
      "port": 3306,
      "password": "meshcpassword",
      "database": "meshcentraldbname"
    },
    ...

Note that when you set up a MySQL server in particular, you have to enable Legacy Authentication. This is a limitation of the nodejs mysql connector (mysqljs/mysql#2002 , mysqljs/mysql#2233). There are ssl options though, you can find them in https://github.com/Ylianst/MeshCentral/blob/master/meshcentral-config-schema.json

PS: I can look at adding MSSQL support, but I don't think this will happen soon. As far as I'm aware, you are the first person to ask for it. I think you would be the only one to use it.

[haxmachine]

This project is awesome and has such great potential.
the community is fantastic and very helpful.
I will stick to what's proven and works well MongoDB

[nzalev]

If you are referring to Download server backup and Restore server with backup, these will only be shown when using NeDB. This is because NeDB uses a single file to store the DB (which is much easier to download and upload) whereas MongoDB/MariaDB/MySQL are all full fledged database engines which require their own tools (mongodump, mysqldump).

Regarding your server warning, meshcentral has not found the path to mongodump. You need to include the following option in your config.json:

   "AutoBackup": {
      "mongodumppath": "C:\\Program Files\\MongoDB\\Server\\4.4\\bin\\mongodump.exe"
    },

Make sure you use the actual file path to where mongodump is on your system. The double \ is also needed.